Discussion:
Why favour beam over fighter missile so much ?
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Lord Lancelot
2008-05-06 09:16:53 UTC
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The fighter beam damage stat is what it is pure damage, and shoot
often.

Missile fighter can shoot 1 or 2 missile fire, need 300 tick between
each shot, need a carrier to reload...

This make many high cost missile only fighter useless...

Like

Bird type 3
220 damage missile and 10 beam.

IMT type 3
100 damage missile and 0 beam.

The EE type 3 and so on.

I'm ok with the idea of missile firing more slowly than beam, but the
difference is too ridiculus, it like they fire missile from a few
hundred year old, vs latest tech beam weapon.

Please allow the missile to fire a little more rapidely like every 25
or 50 tick, not every 300 tick.
Allow fighter to fire a little before needing to redock to a carrier
or a base. Set the default vcr ord to 1 instead of 10.
Or we will have to change (reduce) the fighter cost of fighter who use
mainly missile.

Lord Lancelot
Lord Lancelot
2008-05-06 09:41:16 UTC
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When the default vcr Ord usage =10 (like now), than the damage should
increased as well, like X10 the listed damage in the ship shield.

Fighter beam could do half damage vs ship shield, to help balance the
fighter beam vs missile, and even then the beam would still be better.

Lord Lancelot
Lord Lancelot
2008-05-06 09:50:46 UTC
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Solorian Type I with 1 ord and 900 damage do not suffer from the ord
decrease (they are allowed to fire once).
So if we have some damage bonus it should not apply to this fighter
and any future fighter with only 1 ord capacity.

Lord Lancelot
GFM GToeroe
2008-05-06 10:15:45 UTC
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Post by Lord Lancelot
The fighter beam damage stat is what it is pure damage, and shoot
often.
Missile fighter can shoot 1 or 2 missile fire, need 300 tick between
each shot, need a carrier to reload...
This make many high cost missile only fighter useless...
Like
Bird type 3
220 damage missile and 10 beam.
IMT type 3
100 damage missile and 0 beam.
The EE type 3 and so on.
I'm ok with the idea of missile firing more slowly than beam, but the
difference is too ridiculus, it like they fire missile from a few
hundred year old, vs latest tech beam weapon.
Please allow the missile to fire a little more rapidely like every 25
or 50 tick, not every 300 tick.
Allow fighter to fire a little before needing to redock to a carrier
or a base. Set the default vcr ord to 1 instead of 10.
Or we will have to change (reduce) the fighter cost of fighter who use
mainly missile.
Lord Lancelot
As the script statements currently does not allow dock targets you
can't see what is possible by using Diplomat. Use Scriptz0r to see for
example how docked T3 wings in a Moscow behave aganist a Cube.

Before complaining please try out all options the new system offers.

And as mentioned at Drewhead I'm looking for a special thing missiles
can do what beams can't do.

Gabor
Lord Lancelot
2008-05-06 19:39:40 UTC
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The EE type 3 is normally used alone because of it 200ly warp speed.

Against a borg cube ?
If the Borg are played by an ok player the EE can never attack his
w190 cube, they are protected by grav well and grav mines.
The only thing the EE can hope to send his wing of type 3 Bomber.

Now the Borg when he decide to attack the EE fleet, he will use cube
with antifighter weaponery and simply board all dangerous EE ships.
I see no reason for this simulation.

EE need it type 3 working alone, you can send a ship with them none is
fast enough in warp speed.

Lord Lancelot
Gabor Törö
2008-05-07 19:20:53 UTC
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lord Lancelot" <***@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.games.vgaplanets4
Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: Why favour beam over fighter missile so much ?
Post by Lord Lancelot
The EE type 3 is normally used alone because of it 200ly warp speed.
Against a borg cube ?
If the Borg are played by an ok player the EE can never attack his
w190 cube, they are protected by grav well and grav mines.
Who want to attack a Cube? It's the Hive. And apart from this I didn't had
the race in mind but a ship LIKE a Cube.
Post by Lord Lancelot
The only thing the EE can hope to send his wing of type 3 Bomber.
Through empty space?
Post by Lord Lancelot
Now the Borg when he decide to attack the EE fleet, he will use cube
with antifighter weaponery and simply board all dangerous EE ships.
Simply? The Borg needs more than ten times of the EE crew. It will cost him
a lot of money to spend more than a half million drones for a SSC. And apart
from this you can undock the wings for the last miles.
Post by Lord Lancelot
I see no reason for this simulation.
I know otherwise you hadn't complained. ;P
Post by Lord Lancelot
EE need it type 3 working alone, you can send a ship with them none is
fast enough in warp speed.
At least it needs stations where it can refuel. Correct? And how big are the
losses currently due to a barbatic hit?

Gabor

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